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Climate negotiators may have left Belém without mentioning fossil fuels in the final COP30 text, but the politics around a phase-out are shifting fast. In this interview, Frauke Röser, Co-Founder and Director of NewClimate Institute, reflects on what COP30 revealed about NDC ambition, the emerging agenda of “transitioning away from fossil fuels”, and why 2.6°C is both alarming and still better than where we were a decade ago. She talks candidly about the limits of the COP process, the growing role of the just transition in negotiations, and the funding squeeze many climate organisations are now facing. Frauke also shares what all this means for governments and investors in Southeast Asia, and why clear, long-term signals still matter for driving real-world change.
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